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The Message Behind the Music: An Interview with the Murens

Andrew Wommack sat down with Robert and Elizabeth Muren—the creators of the musical The Heart of Christmas—and Jamie Wommack on the Gospel Truth broadcast. The Murens’ hearts are to provide a tool through their productions and books for capturing people’s attention and showing them God’s love. In this special interview, Andrew and the Murens discuss how they first met and their shared passion to spread the Gospel in a simple way.

Andrew Wommack: So, how did we connect? How did God put all of
us together?

Elizabeth Muren: We had been missionaries in Israel for ten years. We were working with musicals, and we started working on a film when we started listening to you. You rocked our world, and we really got so inspired by your teachings. You’d wonder why people can’t stick to what the Bible says when they’re telling stories from it, because the stories are so rich and well written. Why do they have to invent other things? So, I just thought, Wow, it would be a great thing to have if you and your ministry could help us make sure that we really stick to the Truth and to the important message. So, that’s how we contacted you. We met you and gave you our DVDs of what we’ve
done before.

AW: I got your DVD of The Covenant, which is a musical that Robert and Elizabeth put together when they were missionaries in Israel because they couldn’t preach the Gospel. Well, there were restrictions on preaching the Gospel, so you used music to do it. And it was just so awesome! It was so powerful that I remember asking if you would come here to Woodland Park. This was in 2014.

Robert Muren: Yeah, we came with our four kids, and we had thirty-five suitcases full of costumes with us. And we moved into a building here, and we spent two to three weeks of intense rehearsing with your people—with the Charis Bible College students. And we set up the first performance of God with Us .

AW: So, why don’t you give a little bit of background. What is the storyline of the musical The Heart of Christmas?

EM: The Heart of Christmas is the story of a woman called Ruth, and Jamie is Ruth—a beautiful Ruth. And this woman lives in the year 2000, and she has this crazy family like most of us have. And she’s trying to find a way of giving them the true heart of Christmas because they lost it along the way. So, she starts telling the story of her life. She takes the audience on a journey through time from 2000 to the ’40s when Ruth was brought to America from Europe during World War II.

Then she was adopted by an American mom and brought to America where we see her first Christmas and the first time she sees a Christmas tree. Her parents give her a gift. That gift is The Servant King book. So, Ruth starts reading this story of the fourth wise man, and throughout the musical, we meet her when she’s in her twenties, when she’s in her forties, and when she’s in her sixties. We see her family’s life from Christmas to Christmas, and we see how this book impacts the family through the things they go through. So, yeah. It’s a beautiful story.

Check out the full interview here. You can also purchase the Heart of Christmas Package, which includes the Servant King book and the Heart of Christmas DVD. Get your package online today, and start a new family tradition with this unforgettable story!

Written by Aria Fischer

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Note: this interview has been edited for length and clarity.


Do You Qualify? 

Some people think God has favorites—those who prosper and are fulfilled—while the rest just have to get by. But the Bible reveals specific qualifications we must meet in order to be called of God, and they might surprise you. Sometimes what qualifies us before God isn’t what we expect, and when looking at the lives of Saul and David, this becomes clear.

In his Lessons from David book, Andrew shares:

“Saul’s failure gave David a chance. David was God’s second choice. He never would have even come to the surface if Saul hadn’t botched it up. This speaks volumes to me! Even though the Lord has used me in a mighty way, I certainly don’t feel like I was His first choice. . . . When He chose me and started putting the things He’s told me to do in my heart, I just thought, God, I’m not qualified. I’m not good enough! But then I read His list of qualifications found in 1 Corinthians” (p. 15-16).

Andrew goes on to quote 1 Corinthians 1:26-27:

“For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called: But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty.”

God isn’t looking for the most talented or beautiful people. What God is looking for is a heart perfect toward Him (2 Chr. 16:9). Saul appeared qualified to those around him, but David’s heart qualified him before God. That’s where it ultimately matters. David always made his heart available to the Lord through submitting himself to God’s timing, repenting when he messed up, and always giving God the credit for his success. As Andrew says, “The Lord is more interested in our availability than our ability” (p. 16).

Character is the fruit of a person’s heart. Saul learned the hard way that promotion from God without the character to maintain it is means for disqualification. In other words, not guarding his heart eventually ruined
his future.

Whether or not you keep your heart right will either qualify you for promotion or elevate someone else. Think about that! Proverbs 4:23 says, “Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life.” David was not God’s first choice, but when Saul allowed pride to creep in and didn’t repent of it, he lost what God had for him.

According to Andrew, humility is a key character that will bring you favor
with God:

“You must walk humbly in order to walk with God. This is a lesson we can learn from David. David was a humble man. At times, he messed up royally and committed terrible sins, but he didn’t try to shift the blame onto anyone else when he was reproved. He shouldered the blame himself, repented, and lay before the Lord. David was a humble man. Humility doesn’t mean you do everything perfectly. It doesn’t mean you don’t sin. Humility means that you have a heart that is sensitive toward the Lord. Even though you might act like you’ve lost your mind and gone crazy sometimes, you genuinely love
God” (p. 24-25).

With Andrew’s Lessons from David, learn what qualified David, a shepherd boy and the least in his family, to become the king of Israel. This teaching is available as a CD or DVD series, book (English or Spanish), and study guide.

Written by Aria Fischer

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Appointed: A Man After God’s Own Heart!

The Lord has sought for Himself a man after His own heart, and the Lord has commanded him to be commander over His people.

1 Samuel 13:14, New King James Version

Have you ever wondered what it really means to be called a man after God’s own heart? If so, you’re in good company. You’d be surprised to know that even David wondered the same.

In David: The King of Jerusalem, a brand-new musical production by Robert and Elizabeth Muren, you’ll journey through the life of a lonely young shepherd boy from Bethlehem. Being the youngest of several impressive-looking brothers, David was constantly being overlooked. Even his father, Jesse, didn’t consider him when the prophet Samuel asked him to present
his sons.

David had, however, developed an intimate relationship with his unseen Father by whom he was always seen. Robert puts it this way: “God, his heavenly Father, saw him and chose him before all others in the
whole nation.”

His far-from-perfect life was smeared with adultery, murder, betrayal, and the loss of children. But one thing never changed: his unwavering desire to please only his heavenly Father. Robert says, “Despite weaknesses and failures, he was desperate for God, and he passionately sought His wisdom and
His Word.”

The Murens do an amazing job of capturing the essence of David’s life. If you’ve seen their world-class productions God with Us or The Heart of Christmas, you know you won’t want to miss this one. You’ll be treated to a memorable performance with family-friendly entertainment you can trust. Every member of the family can identify with David, the hero for all ages.

You’ll also enjoy the musical renditions with a modern-worship twist, as David tells story after story of God’s amazing grace.

In the musical, the mature King David starts to prepare Solomon to be his successor. However, Solomon doesn’t fit the typical mold of a king. And just like David, Solomon was the least expected to ascend to the throne. David shows, through the story of his own life, that man looks at outward appearances, but God looks at the heart. Through his vulnerability, he and Solomon discover why God called David a man after His heart.

Elizabeth explains, “The main story is not about David and Solomon. . . . The main love story is about David and God. . . . And the one thing I want people to leave with is the understanding of how God desires intimacy. The main theme throughout the story―past and present―is . . . discovering the relationship that David had with God.”

“Come celebrate with us, and discover why David was a man after God’s own heart,” says Robert. “Witness how the rejected shepherd boy from Bethlehem becomes the king of Jerusalem!”

This one-night-only musical takes place on Friday, November 2, 2018, at 7 p.m. and kicks off our weekend of epic proportions! On Saturday at 2 p.m., we will continue the celebrations with special guests Kenneth Copeland and Jesse Duplantis, as we dedicate our new auditorium to the glory of God. The festivities culminate on Sunday at 4 p.m., as Andrew Wommack hosts The Event with Tony Perkins and featured speaker former governor
Mike Huckabee.

Imagine spending a fun, godly weekend in the beautiful mountains of Woodland Park, Colorado, and imagine joining thousands of others as we celebrate God’s grace.

Now, turn that imagination into reality!

Get tickets and find more information about David: The King of Jerusalem at Leave us a comment below if you’re planning to attend this musical or any of the other events in our momentous weekend.

We look forward to seeing you there!

Written by Zoe Isaacs

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